MULTIPLE PROCESSORS OVER MULTI PROCESSOR
One question that has arisen in this field is, "Can you do more with a multiple processor machine with many chips rather than a machine with a single chip that contains multiple processors?" This notion divides into more considerations. Is one more flexible over the other? Which is more cost effective? Which is easier to program? Which can help solve applications in a faster manner? Which one has better hardware? Which is the better controller? Which one has more I/O pins? Which is faster to troubleshoot? Which is more repairable? Are all processors useable? Which is easier to to use in constructing a machine? For these questions and more, let's build a machine and start our comparisons.
For this study, we base our answers to questions by comparing
two actual brand chips, the GA144 by Green Arrays and the Propeller by Parallax. We will create a Propeller machine with the closest number of whole cores to the GA144 chip with 144 cores.
Note: In this comparison, in each category, the processor winner is in parentheses.)
NUMBER OF CORES
Each Propeller has 8 core risc processors. 144 processors is equal to 18 Propellers. So we will compare a one chip machine containing multiple cores to a machine with multiple chips and multiple cores. All chips are different in one way or another. Let's focus on the questions.
INPUT OUTPUT PINS (PROPELLER)
First up, which one has more pins for input output? The Propeller. Each chip has I/O 32 pins. With 18 chips, the machine will have 576 pins. The GA144 has 88 pins with only 25 for I/O.
HARDWARE (GA144)
Which chip has more hardware? The GA144 offers more built in hardware.
FLEXIBILITY (PROPELLER)
Because the design of the Propeller uses software to create hardware, it's more flexible.
NUMBER OF LANGUAGES (PROPELLER)
The GA144 has one language to the Propeller's over 248 languages and variations.
AS A MICROCONTROLLER (PROPELLER)
The Propeller machine as a controller has full access to more I/O pins.
USABLE PROCESSORS (PROPELLER)
Unfortunately
the wiring of the GA144 does not permit all processors to be used at
the same time for some apps. With Propellers, all chips are up and
running, and all cores have access paths.
WHICH IS FASTER? (PROPELLER)
The GA144 would seem faster at first. However, the Propeller is faster when the speed of all 18 Propeller chips and 144 cores are added up.
COST (PROPELLER)
The GA144 is $20 per chip but you are forced to buy a minimum of ten chips. The Propeller is $7.99 each or $143.82 for 18 chips with 144 cores. Because, to get one GA144 you must buy ten, the cost of one GA144 chip will be $200. The Propeller is more cost effective. Also when the Propeller machine has a chip go out, if it ever does, the chip can be replaced and the entire machine is still usable. This makes the Propeller more cost effective because if a single core goes out in the GA144, the entire unit must be replaced.
EASE OF PROGRAMMING (PROPELLER)
The GA144 has only one language - FORTH. The Propeller has options with over 248 languages and their variations. The Propeller is significantly easier to program because it has more programming options, more flexibility and you can choose your favorite language for programming to make things more easy.
MORE REPAIRABLE (PROPELLER)
With the propeller machine, if a chip fails, just unplug it, remove it, and insert a replacement with the handy DIP configuration. With the GA144, the entire chip must be replaced.
TROUBLESHOOTING (GA144)
Which chip is faster to troubleshoot? There's an edge advantage with a single GA144 chip not working. Just throw it away. No need to test other chips.
EASE OF WIRING (GA144)
The GA144 is already permanently wired inside the one chip.
SPECIAL WIRING (PROPELLER)
You can wire in between the chips of processors which is not possible with the GA144.
SUPPORT (PROPELLER)
As we see, and based on the Forums given, the Propeller appears to have ten thousand times more support in terms of the individuals using the product around the world, and with the support offered by Parallax Inc.
CONCLUSION
We looked at 15 comparison points. The propeller wins over the GA144 in eleven points, while the GA144 holds its own in 4 categories. We therefore conclude that for our purposes and for the purpose of this analysis, the Propeller chip, and the technique of using multiple Propellers is superior.
We also believe the GA144 is a very useful, advanced and powerful chip with many potential applications. It may very well win over other processors in other areas not considered in this study.
LINKS
Parallax
http://www.parallax.com/Propeller
Propeller
http://www.parallax.com/Store/Microcontrollers/PropellerChips/tabid/142/List/0/CategoryID/18/Level/a/SortField/0/Default.aspx
GA144
http://www.greenarraychips.com/home/products/
GA144 Brief
http://www.greenarraychips.com/home/documents/greg/GA144.htm
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Sunday, March 17, 2013
Saturday, August 11, 2012
Make Multiple Propeller Machines from One
PROPELLER SUPER COMPUTING
MAKE MULTIPLE PROPELLER MACHINES FROM ONE
How to wire a Propeller super computing machine with software is a very interesting vast topic and encompasses many areas. The subject can be addressed by examining reconfigurations of mass enumerated processors as a starting point. There are many techniques involving parallelism computing and distributed methodology. Look for more about this topic in the future.
Sunday, July 25, 2010
Multiple Props Projects List
Multiple Props Projects List
Add your multiple Propeller Project here
(updated Wed. Jan. 30, 2013)
Two Props Projects
Mindrobots 2 props, Propeller Slave attached to a QuickStart Proto Board, 2 Props running the same Forth images. Connected via 57,600 bps serial link. No channels between Propellers. Slave functioning needs a terminal session. Additional clusters built as needed.
http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?139751-Multi-Propeller-configurations-with-PropForth-v-5.0&highlight=SUPERCOMPUTER
Dr_Acula 2 props http://www.smarthome.viviti.com/prop....com/propeller http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...reless-network
Bill Henning Morpheus - 2 props http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...le-Prop-Design http://mikronauts.com/products/morph...ucts/morpheus/
Jazzed Propalyzer - 2 props piggyback http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...for-Propalyzer Obrien 2 props on a solderless breadboard http://www.objectivej.com/hardware/p...ter/index.html www.objectivej.com/hardware/propcluster/index.html
Ale 2 props, communicate via 4 bit parallel bus (Beau's 4-bit sync protocol)
kuroneko 2 props, RAMBlade 104MHz on demoboard (80MHz), 5Mb/s XLINK
Electricsmith 2 props hardwired on PCB with 2 lines connected between each http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...l=1#post928314
Humanoido 2-Prop-Experiment, 2 props, 1 PEK, 1 on same breadboard http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Humanoido Spark 2, 2 props, 1 Proto Board & one in parallel
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Humanoido PIGGY-TWINS, 2 props, one piggybacked on another
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Humanoido Dueling Breadboards, 2 props, one on ea., f/interface tests
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Humanoido BRAIN IN A JAR, 2 props, 1 breadboard, 1 jar
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...73#post1014473
Clock Loop Prop Dual Big Boy, 2 props http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?t=124343
Harley 2 props, requiring more than 32 I/Os and 8 cogs, the master Prop talks to another pcb with keypad and 7-segment + dp LEDs at one baud rate, and comm with 2nd Prop is at a higher rate. This is an attempt to replace some 55 TTL ICs. nickL 2-prop Forth application http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...Interest-Group
Three Props Projects
Cluso99 TriBlade - 3 props on a circuit board, props working discretely http://bluemagic.biz/cluso.htmbluemagic.biz/cluso.htm http://forums.parallax.com/forums/de...5&m=329999&p=1
Obrien 3 props stacking using Parallax Proto Boards Obrien 3 props on a solderless breadboard
Christian 3 props
drohne235 The Hive Project - 3 props http://hive-project.dehive-project.de http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...puter&p=771392
Heater 3 props on a TriBlade
Clock Loop Prop BigBoy 3 props versionhttp://forums.parallax.com/forums/attach.aspx?a=45006 forums.parallax.com/forums/attach.aspx?a=45006
Duane Degn Multi Prop Laboratory – 3 props (2 wired + 1 wireless) Added new link! http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...l=1#post927239 http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...inuing-Project http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...Machine-Vision Destructinator 3 props, 1 master + 2 slaves on a solderless breadboard http://forums.parallax.com/forums/de...5&p=2&m=472019
Loopy Byteloose 3 Propeller Stack http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...Super-Computer
kbash & Missouri Automation - 3 props, Multipropcom three Propellers on one circuit board communicate with each other using only two pins each http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...-communication
Four Props Projects
Clock Loop BlackBox Sequencer - 4 props http://forums.parallax.com/forums/de...?f=25&m=364607
Obrien 4 props on a solderless breadboard Obrien 4 props proto board stack
Humanoido Spark 4, Tiny Tim, 4 props, two proto boards w/2 props on ea
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Humanoido Tiny Tim, 4 props, experimental wiring platform
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Jazzed TetraProp, printed circuit board with 4 props http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...eady-to-ship-!
Five Props Projects Obrien 5 props running off a single eeprom
kuroneko 5 props capacity, SpinStudio + 4 M-Modules + 1x1 PropMods
Clock Loop Prop BigBoy, 5 props version http://forums.parallax.com/forums/attach.aspx?a=45021 http://forums.parallax.com/forums/de...?f=25&m=473764
Humanoido Spark 5, 5 props stacked Proto Boards, Spark 6 forerunner
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Brian Riley 5 props Multi-Prop PF5. PPUSB slaved to an original PP, both running EEPROM kernel, the PP has two 512 EEPROMs and the USB has one
Six Props Projects
Cluso99 - SixBlade - 6 props with two boards
Humanoido - Spark 6, 6 props 3 proto boards 2 props on ea, led to Spark 8
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Seven Props Projects
Clock Loop - Prop BigBoy, 7 props version http://forums.parallax.com/forums/attach.aspx?a=45020
Mikediv - Quasi-Prop Tower, 7 props version http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...Super-Computer
Eight Props Projects
Obrien - 3-dimensional Hypercube, 8 props, 32 cores @ 4 per chip http://www.objectivej.com/hardware/p...ter/index.html http://www.leonheller.com/Propeller/...OM_files/a.htm
Jazzed - OctoProp 8 stacked props Humanoido - Spark 8, Tertiary ADJUNCT, 8 props 4 proto boards 2 props on ea
Nine Props Projects
Clock Loop - Prop BigBoy, 9 props version http://forums.parallax.com/forums/attach.aspx?a=45023
Ten Props Projects
Humanoido - Propalot - 10 props on solderless breadboard
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...palot&p=890215
Humanoido - Spark 10, 10 props, 5 proto boards, 10 props total
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Humanoido - TTB Test Bed of Ten, 10 props single board
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Twelve Props Projects
Clock Loop 12 props, 3 black box sequencers in sync, each sequencer has 4 props
Humanoido - Twelvenator, aka Board of Twelve, 12 props on green board
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
DaveJenson - Test Station, 12 Props, 10 temp sensor boards talk to Master http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...=124172&page=3
Thirteen Props Projects
BTX 13 props, one master + 12 slaves, hand assembled boards http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...r-board./page2
Yoichi Nagashima Shizuoka U, 13 Props, Dodeca Prop, 2 displays, 12 video monitors in SUAC
Fifteen Props Projects
Humanoido UltraSpark 15, 15 props, interrupted stack Proto Bds, photo available
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Seventeen Props Projects
BTX - Multi Propeller Board 17 props, One is: Master - Keyboard - Video Out - SD card reader. And 16 slaves. http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...r-board./page4
TWENTY & OVER PROPS
Twenty Props Projects
Humanoido - Tertiary 20, 20 props, 15 proto boards stacked 5 props, photos
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Humanoido - UltraSpark 20, 20 props stacked, photo, used for MLEPS
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Humanoido - Boe-Bot Brain Project, 20 props
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Twenty-One Props Projects
Humanoido - iBrain 21 Propeller boards, 168 Propeller Cogs, still growing
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
TWENTY-FIVE PROPS & OVER
Twenty-Five Props Projects
Humanoido - MLEPS Super Language Machine, 25 props
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Twenty-Eight Props Projects
Clock Loop - Prop BigBoy, 28 props on breadboards http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...=124343&page=3
Forty Props Projects
Humanoido - UltraSpark 40 Supermicrocontroller, 40 prop tower, 320 cores, 6,400/8,320 MIPS
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...raper&p=921524
Humanoido - Boe-Bot Largest Brain 40 props, 321 processors total http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...oeBot&p=922262
FIFTY PROPS & OVER
FIFTY-FIVE PROPS
Clock Loop - The Perturbation Machine http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...ns55-Propeller
A machine with 1 master and 54 slaves, "432 cores, 1620 I/O, 150Kbps communication, word enumeration, 54 randomly generated IDs, To study the nature of randomness in a digital processor network using the same clock source, 54 prop chips were all connected to a master prop. I like having 1,620 I/O at my fingertips. To study the nature of randomness in a digital processor network using the same clock source, 54 prop chips were all connected to a master prop. The master prop holds the eeprom, and accepts prop plug input for memory/program download. The master prop controls the reset and clock lines for all 54 props. The master prop also sends all combinations of a word out broadcast to all 54 props that are connected bus network style.
When a slave prop sees its number broadcast on the bus line, it replys with the same number. Then the slave prop runs code depending on the number broadcast. Its possible to broadcast messages to all props, or single props, after the initial enumeration is done. Repeats are possible in any system that has reduced choices and increased speeds. If repeats are a worry, then a long sized variable should be used in the random ID generation. Enumeration of the Randomly generated ID's. Every step up in variable size reduces the speed that the whole system can communicate at due to more data being sent over the same speed pipe. The communicaiton speeds of the bus network can be increased with lower value resistors, but the power draw will increase, if the props are connected to the bus with lower values, one needs to adjust all other bus resistors in relation.
Having? You take 55 props, some programming (attached), a bag of 470 ohm resistors(500) (not attached), a 3.3v regulator (2A), a huge breadboard, wire, 57 leds. Using the Real Random object in the obex created by Chip Gracey. This object generates real random numbers by stimulating and tracking CTR PLL jitter. It requires one cog and at least 20MHz. 432 cores, 1,620 I/O, 64.8 A max peak draw - 10.8A continuous, @3.3v. 150kbps - communications using the same rx/tx lines for programming all 54 props. Word location enumeration of 54 randomly generated ID's"
ONE-HUNDRED PROPS
Humanoido Propeller Big Brain, 100 props (Build time = 1 Year)
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.tw/p/t...nformatin.html
The first working massive Machine Brain with 100 Parallax Propeller chips. Designed to explore machine intelligence. Reached Semi-Cognizant state in 2011.
The 800-Core Big Brain is a simple fun hobby project to run experiments and play with endless possibilities. Approximately 16,000 MIPS and 3,200 I/O ports. 3 Partitions - the 3rd is a Magic Floating Partition - holds any number of props from 1 to 50, allows removal & loan to other projects.
Talk, sing, dream, learn, evolve, demonstrate Life, color TV, hearing, speech recognition, keyboard, mouse, 2 LCD displays, host boards, compatibility (Stamps, Props, PCs, Macs), sound out, mic in, stomach, Brain Base, Brain Spans, Brain Stem, EXOskeleton, multiple languages, over 100 x 64K distributed RAM/ROM, LED enabled, crystal/EEPROM supported, Mac/PC support computers,
3 TeraByte hard drives, Neural Matter Injector syncs & load props in parallel. Developed ParaP, AtOnce, EnhancedChip technologies - parallel-parallel operations, loading @ once, increase p^N, inject 100,000 Simplex Neurons. Expanding Array. Created modest RTOS - handles cogs, loading, timing, neural matter distribution.
Cloning. Executes all-chip-multi-enumeration in a second. Expanding Arrays. HYBRID interface (Serial Communications, Daisy Chain Token Ring Topology, Prop to Prop, Parallel), RI Reduction Interface, AE Automatic Enumerator, Waveform Reliability Filter, No Parts Technology to reduce cost.
Addendum: Many Spinoffs. New Big Brain Index:
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.tw/p/index.html
[The Big Brain was upgraded to include an open Partition and was expanded with more props]
Humanoido 100 props. RX Propeller Supercomputer. A Supercomputer made from 100 Propeller chips. This distributed parallel machine with 800 RISC computers qualifies as a retro supercomputer circa 1990s. With 1,600 Counters, 3,200 I/O, 6,400 K Bytes RAM/ROM, 16,000 MIPS theoretical. Proposed Propeller Supercomputer Kit with Schematic Diagram, Enumerator, Parallel Loader, Operations Algorithm, Applications Outline, Instructional PDF... RX Propeller Supercomputer
OVER ONE-HUNDRED PROPS
Humanoido Over 100 props, variable, 100+ Hybrid Parallax Propeller Supercomputer, completed, upgrade to the Big Brain. The most powerful TeraFLOPS machine at Humanoido Labs. Made by Humanoido. Reached equivalent supercomputing speed in 2012 comparable to the Top 500 List. Massive design with all available props exceeding 800 Propeller RISC processors and 729 Intel and AMD processors and 100,000 VIP Processors. Currently reached the 12th level. Utilized for the Ultra Space Program, Brain Enhancement and AI Projects. More Specs and Information at:
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.tw/p/specs.html http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.tw/p/index.html http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.tw/201...brain-era.html http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.tw/p/this-is-about-informatin.html
Numerous other massive Propeller based machines listed here.
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Works in Progress
Michael O'Brien OBrien Labs: Distributed Parallel Processing
Target goal = 80 Props / 640 cores. "80 Parallax Propeller 8-core microcontroller based parallel processing computer in progress... And now we start the process of getting an 80 propeller chip / 640 core multiprocessor working. Why 640 cores?
In early 2008 i became increasingly interested in hardware based parallelism. The majority of the design and defect issues we are seeing in enterprise software tools development involve concurrent processes and how to fully utilize available cores in existing and future systems. Parallization of software is a huge problem, i decided to approach this from the additional view of "bottom-up" engineering - by designing and writing "architecture-aware" simple systems to start.
A "base-case" architecture would initially do away with microprocessors all together and design a purely parallel machine with very simple cores - like a 1-bit symbolic ALU consisting of a few logic gates. We could realize this custom machine using standard (since the 70's) TTL HSCMOS chips or even a single FPGA. The parallizable algorithm of choice is cellular automata for a symbolic machine or the Mandelbrot set for a floating point machine - we will implement the 256 function/1-dimensional/2-state Wolfram CA in hardware for our first base case parallel machine.
The PCAM implements a boolean function of 3 variables (left,center and right cells on a cell array) - this function has 2^2^n states or 256. This 8 bit byte fits very nicely in the 74 TTL logic family as a single 151/251 data selector can be used as the core of each ALU. Before I start the process of designing modular 2-8 chip boards for a near production prototype - my workspace does not fit more than 40 breadboards on a what - a whiteboard.
We will be encountering issues like power/voltage loading, parasitic capacitance, TTL-HSCMOS fanout and placing at least 4000 wires. Not to mention the hardest part of the process - the software. Here is part of our 80 propeller 640 core propeller multiprocessor prototype in progress - see you in a couple months. You can follow progress of the kilocore prototype on the kilocore.blogspot.com blog."
Laser-Vector 2-props, establish wireless data link over long distance
Bigfoot computer designed physical cube of 6 SMT props - not built
Duane Degn Multi Prop Lab, 6 props (4 wired + 2 wireless), design only http://forums.parallax.com/forums/?f...474065#m474065
Mctrivia CAD Designed a breakaway board for 8 SMT props http://forums.parallax.com/forums/de...?f=25&m=429487
Obrien The photo at kilokore web site shows partial assembly of 68 props being wired on breadboards. We await more information and details. According to Obrien, he is using the techniques developed by Clock Loop. http://www.kilocore.com/ http://www.objectivej.com/hardware/p...etion_640h.jpg
Mctrivia propComputer, idea for 7 props on one board http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...ers-on-1-board.
Cluso99 - pcb, 10 x TriBlades count as 30 but never actually built. The TriBlade pcb was built as 2x5 panels of TriBlades and are broken apart later. http://www.cluso.bluemagic.bizwww.cluso.bluemagic.biz
Cluso99 - pcb, 10 x RamBlades count as 10 but never actually operated. The RamBlade pcb was built as 2x5 panels of RamBlades and are broken apart after assembly. http://www.cluso.bluemagic.bizwww.cluso.bluemagic.biz)
Jazzed - multiprop pcb. IIRC, 30 prop pcbs on a panel
Clockloop Huge Propeller Grid - target goal 504 props / 4032 cores
http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php/127983-55-Parallax-Propeller-s-Parallells-Processing-of-Permanent-Perturbations./page2
And now I reveal the point of designing this huge propeller grid.
A.C.S.E.R. Structure complete, wiring/soldering/programming up next. Dec 21st 2012, target completion date, confirmed. Initiate phase 2: soldering minimal antenna and firmware design for hydrogen resonance test. This initial design will require a minimum of 42 propeller chips, with a desired target of 84 chips. After tests with 84 chips, the next step up is to install and wire the maximum # of 504 prop chips. Yes, the final design will require 504 propeller chips. = $4,000.
Once the inital 42 chips are soldered and the system is working, and I have a running program, I will start a new thread in projects outlining the details of this device, its capabilities, tests, methods, schematics, pcb design files, spin programs, and more detailed video and images. The most important part of documentation will be the success or failure of this device to actually do what I intend it to do. It’s (very likely) possible that other uses will be found as I start to test with it.
Humanoido The Blitz Krieg. The most massive and ultimately powerful multifunctional Propeller machine ever designed at the Humanoido Labs Universe. Over 100,000 processors. Designed as a new generation Propeller-chip-based thinking machine that exceeds previous ratings. BK has greater design, creativity, speed, function, size, app capability, and number of processors. Allows exploration into the farthest frontiers of machine intelligence. Designed with previous processor enhancements and the inclusion of recent technology from HLU.
Contributors
Ale
Bigfoot
Bill Henning
Brian Riley
BTX
Christian
Clock Loop
Cluso99
DaveJenson
Destructinator
Dr_Acula
Drohne235
Duane Degn
Electricsmith
Harley
Heater
Humanoido
Humanoido Labs
Jazzed
Kbash
Kuroneko
Laser-Vector
Loopy Byteloose
Mctrivia
Mikediv
Michael O'Brien
Mindrobots
Missouri Automaton
Nglordi (nickL)
Yoichi Nagashima
Add your multiple Propeller Project here
(updated Wed. Jan. 30, 2013)
Two Props Projects
Mindrobots 2 props, Propeller Slave attached to a QuickStart Proto Board, 2 Props running the same Forth images. Connected via 57,600 bps serial link. No channels between Propellers. Slave functioning needs a terminal session. Additional clusters built as needed.
http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?139751-Multi-Propeller-configurations-with-PropForth-v-5.0&highlight=SUPERCOMPUTER
Dr_Acula 2 props http://www.smarthome.viviti.com/prop....com/propeller http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...reless-network
Bill Henning Morpheus - 2 props http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...le-Prop-Design http://mikronauts.com/products/morph...ucts/morpheus/
Jazzed Propalyzer - 2 props piggyback http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...for-Propalyzer Obrien 2 props on a solderless breadboard http://www.objectivej.com/hardware/p...ter/index.html www.objectivej.com/hardware/propcluster/index.html
Ale 2 props, communicate via 4 bit parallel bus (Beau's 4-bit sync protocol)
kuroneko 2 props, RAMBlade 104MHz on demoboard (80MHz), 5Mb/s XLINK
Electricsmith 2 props hardwired on PCB with 2 lines connected between each http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...l=1#post928314
Humanoido 2-Prop-Experiment, 2 props, 1 PEK, 1 on same breadboard http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Humanoido Spark 2, 2 props, 1 Proto Board & one in parallel
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Humanoido PIGGY-TWINS, 2 props, one piggybacked on another
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Humanoido Dueling Breadboards, 2 props, one on ea., f/interface tests
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Humanoido BRAIN IN A JAR, 2 props, 1 breadboard, 1 jar
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...73#post1014473
Clock Loop Prop Dual Big Boy, 2 props http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php?t=124343
Harley 2 props, requiring more than 32 I/Os and 8 cogs, the master Prop talks to another pcb with keypad and 7-segment + dp LEDs at one baud rate, and comm with 2nd Prop is at a higher rate. This is an attempt to replace some 55 TTL ICs. nickL 2-prop Forth application http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...Interest-Group
Three Props Projects
Cluso99 TriBlade - 3 props on a circuit board, props working discretely http://bluemagic.biz/cluso.htmbluemagic.biz/cluso.htm http://forums.parallax.com/forums/de...5&m=329999&p=1
Obrien 3 props stacking using Parallax Proto Boards Obrien 3 props on a solderless breadboard
Christian 3 props
drohne235 The Hive Project - 3 props http://hive-project.dehive-project.de http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...puter&p=771392
Heater 3 props on a TriBlade
Clock Loop Prop BigBoy 3 props versionhttp://forums.parallax.com/forums/attach.aspx?a=45006 forums.parallax.com/forums/attach.aspx?a=45006
Duane Degn Multi Prop Laboratory – 3 props (2 wired + 1 wireless) Added new link! http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...l=1#post927239 http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...inuing-Project http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...Machine-Vision Destructinator 3 props, 1 master + 2 slaves on a solderless breadboard http://forums.parallax.com/forums/de...5&p=2&m=472019
Loopy Byteloose 3 Propeller Stack http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...Super-Computer
kbash & Missouri Automation - 3 props, Multipropcom three Propellers on one circuit board communicate with each other using only two pins each http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...-communication
Four Props Projects
Clock Loop BlackBox Sequencer - 4 props http://forums.parallax.com/forums/de...?f=25&m=364607
Obrien 4 props on a solderless breadboard Obrien 4 props proto board stack
Humanoido Spark 4, Tiny Tim, 4 props, two proto boards w/2 props on ea
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Humanoido Tiny Tim, 4 props, experimental wiring platform
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Jazzed TetraProp, printed circuit board with 4 props http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...eady-to-ship-!
Five Props Projects Obrien 5 props running off a single eeprom
kuroneko 5 props capacity, SpinStudio + 4 M-Modules + 1x1 PropMods
Clock Loop Prop BigBoy, 5 props version http://forums.parallax.com/forums/attach.aspx?a=45021 http://forums.parallax.com/forums/de...?f=25&m=473764
Humanoido Spark 5, 5 props stacked Proto Boards, Spark 6 forerunner
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Brian Riley 5 props Multi-Prop PF5. PPUSB slaved to an original PP, both running EEPROM kernel, the PP has two 512 EEPROMs and the USB has one
Six Props Projects
Cluso99 - SixBlade - 6 props with two boards
Humanoido - Spark 6, 6 props 3 proto boards 2 props on ea, led to Spark 8
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Seven Props Projects
Clock Loop - Prop BigBoy, 7 props version http://forums.parallax.com/forums/attach.aspx?a=45020
Mikediv - Quasi-Prop Tower, 7 props version http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...Super-Computer
Eight Props Projects
Obrien - 3-dimensional Hypercube, 8 props, 32 cores @ 4 per chip http://www.objectivej.com/hardware/p...ter/index.html http://www.leonheller.com/Propeller/...OM_files/a.htm
Jazzed - OctoProp 8 stacked props Humanoido - Spark 8, Tertiary ADJUNCT, 8 props 4 proto boards 2 props on ea
Nine Props Projects
Clock Loop - Prop BigBoy, 9 props version http://forums.parallax.com/forums/attach.aspx?a=45023
Ten Props Projects
Humanoido - Propalot - 10 props on solderless breadboard
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...palot&p=890215
Humanoido - Spark 10, 10 props, 5 proto boards, 10 props total
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Humanoido - TTB Test Bed of Ten, 10 props single board
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Twelve Props Projects
Clock Loop 12 props, 3 black box sequencers in sync, each sequencer has 4 props
Humanoido - Twelvenator, aka Board of Twelve, 12 props on green board
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
DaveJenson - Test Station, 12 Props, 10 temp sensor boards talk to Master http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...=124172&page=3
Thirteen Props Projects
BTX 13 props, one master + 12 slaves, hand assembled boards http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...r-board./page2
Yoichi Nagashima Shizuoka U, 13 Props, Dodeca Prop, 2 displays, 12 video monitors in SUAC
Fifteen Props Projects
Humanoido UltraSpark 15, 15 props, interrupted stack Proto Bds, photo available
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Seventeen Props Projects
BTX - Multi Propeller Board 17 props, One is: Master - Keyboard - Video Out - SD card reader. And 16 slaves. http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...r-board./page4
TWENTY & OVER PROPS
Twenty Props Projects
Humanoido - Tertiary 20, 20 props, 15 proto boards stacked 5 props, photos
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Humanoido - UltraSpark 20, 20 props stacked, photo, used for MLEPS
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Humanoido - Boe-Bot Brain Project, 20 props
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Twenty-One Props Projects
Humanoido - iBrain 21 Propeller boards, 168 Propeller Cogs, still growing
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
TWENTY-FIVE PROPS & OVER
Twenty-Five Props Projects
Humanoido - MLEPS Super Language Machine, 25 props
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Twenty-Eight Props Projects
Clock Loop - Prop BigBoy, 28 props on breadboards http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...=124343&page=3
Forty Props Projects
Humanoido - UltraSpark 40 Supermicrocontroller, 40 prop tower, 320 cores, 6,400/8,320 MIPS
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...raper&p=921524
Humanoido - Boe-Bot Largest Brain 40 props, 321 processors total http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...oeBot&p=922262
FIFTY PROPS & OVER
FIFTY-FIVE PROPS
Clock Loop - The Perturbation Machine http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...ns55-Propeller
A machine with 1 master and 54 slaves, "432 cores, 1620 I/O, 150Kbps communication, word enumeration, 54 randomly generated IDs, To study the nature of randomness in a digital processor network using the same clock source, 54 prop chips were all connected to a master prop. I like having 1,620 I/O at my fingertips. To study the nature of randomness in a digital processor network using the same clock source, 54 prop chips were all connected to a master prop. The master prop holds the eeprom, and accepts prop plug input for memory/program download. The master prop controls the reset and clock lines for all 54 props. The master prop also sends all combinations of a word out broadcast to all 54 props that are connected bus network style.
When a slave prop sees its number broadcast on the bus line, it replys with the same number. Then the slave prop runs code depending on the number broadcast. Its possible to broadcast messages to all props, or single props, after the initial enumeration is done. Repeats are possible in any system that has reduced choices and increased speeds. If repeats are a worry, then a long sized variable should be used in the random ID generation. Enumeration of the Randomly generated ID's. Every step up in variable size reduces the speed that the whole system can communicate at due to more data being sent over the same speed pipe. The communicaiton speeds of the bus network can be increased with lower value resistors, but the power draw will increase, if the props are connected to the bus with lower values, one needs to adjust all other bus resistors in relation.
Having? You take 55 props, some programming (attached), a bag of 470 ohm resistors(500) (not attached), a 3.3v regulator (2A), a huge breadboard, wire, 57 leds. Using the Real Random object in the obex created by Chip Gracey. This object generates real random numbers by stimulating and tracking CTR PLL jitter. It requires one cog and at least 20MHz. 432 cores, 1,620 I/O, 64.8 A max peak draw - 10.8A continuous, @3.3v. 150kbps - communications using the same rx/tx lines for programming all 54 props. Word location enumeration of 54 randomly generated ID's"
ONE-HUNDRED PROPS
Humanoido Propeller Big Brain, 100 props (Build time = 1 Year)
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.tw/p/t...nformatin.html
The first working massive Machine Brain with 100 Parallax Propeller chips. Designed to explore machine intelligence. Reached Semi-Cognizant state in 2011.
The 800-Core Big Brain is a simple fun hobby project to run experiments and play with endless possibilities. Approximately 16,000 MIPS and 3,200 I/O ports. 3 Partitions - the 3rd is a Magic Floating Partition - holds any number of props from 1 to 50, allows removal & loan to other projects.
Talk, sing, dream, learn, evolve, demonstrate Life, color TV, hearing, speech recognition, keyboard, mouse, 2 LCD displays, host boards, compatibility (Stamps, Props, PCs, Macs), sound out, mic in, stomach, Brain Base, Brain Spans, Brain Stem, EXOskeleton, multiple languages, over 100 x 64K distributed RAM/ROM, LED enabled, crystal/EEPROM supported, Mac/PC support computers,
3 TeraByte hard drives, Neural Matter Injector syncs & load props in parallel. Developed ParaP, AtOnce, EnhancedChip technologies - parallel-parallel operations, loading @ once, increase p^N, inject 100,000 Simplex Neurons. Expanding Array. Created modest RTOS - handles cogs, loading, timing, neural matter distribution.
Cloning. Executes all-chip-multi-enumeration in a second. Expanding Arrays. HYBRID interface (Serial Communications, Daisy Chain Token Ring Topology, Prop to Prop, Parallel), RI Reduction Interface, AE Automatic Enumerator, Waveform Reliability Filter, No Parts Technology to reduce cost.
Addendum: Many Spinoffs. New Big Brain Index:
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.tw/p/index.html
[The Big Brain was upgraded to include an open Partition and was expanded with more props]
Humanoido 100 props. RX Propeller Supercomputer. A Supercomputer made from 100 Propeller chips. This distributed parallel machine with 800 RISC computers qualifies as a retro supercomputer circa 1990s. With 1,600 Counters, 3,200 I/O, 6,400 K Bytes RAM/ROM, 16,000 MIPS theoretical. Proposed Propeller Supercomputer Kit with Schematic Diagram, Enumerator, Parallel Loader, Operations Algorithm, Applications Outline, Instructional PDF... RX Propeller Supercomputer
OVER ONE-HUNDRED PROPS
Humanoido Over 100 props, variable, 100+ Hybrid Parallax Propeller Supercomputer, completed, upgrade to the Big Brain. The most powerful TeraFLOPS machine at Humanoido Labs. Made by Humanoido. Reached equivalent supercomputing speed in 2012 comparable to the Top 500 List. Massive design with all available props exceeding 800 Propeller RISC processors and 729 Intel and AMD processors and 100,000 VIP Processors. Currently reached the 12th level. Utilized for the Ultra Space Program, Brain Enhancement and AI Projects. More Specs and Information at:
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.tw/p/specs.html http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.tw/p/index.html http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.tw/201...brain-era.html http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.tw/p/this-is-about-informatin.html
Numerous other massive Propeller based machines listed here.
http://humanoidolabs.blogspot.com/p/genealogy.html
Works in Progress
Michael O'Brien OBrien Labs: Distributed Parallel Processing
Target goal = 80 Props / 640 cores. "80 Parallax Propeller 8-core microcontroller based parallel processing computer in progress... And now we start the process of getting an 80 propeller chip / 640 core multiprocessor working. Why 640 cores?
In early 2008 i became increasingly interested in hardware based parallelism. The majority of the design and defect issues we are seeing in enterprise software tools development involve concurrent processes and how to fully utilize available cores in existing and future systems. Parallization of software is a huge problem, i decided to approach this from the additional view of "bottom-up" engineering - by designing and writing "architecture-aware" simple systems to start.
A "base-case" architecture would initially do away with microprocessors all together and design a purely parallel machine with very simple cores - like a 1-bit symbolic ALU consisting of a few logic gates. We could realize this custom machine using standard (since the 70's) TTL HSCMOS chips or even a single FPGA. The parallizable algorithm of choice is cellular automata for a symbolic machine or the Mandelbrot set for a floating point machine - we will implement the 256 function/1-dimensional/2-state Wolfram CA in hardware for our first base case parallel machine.
The PCAM implements a boolean function of 3 variables (left,center and right cells on a cell array) - this function has 2^2^n states or 256. This 8 bit byte fits very nicely in the 74 TTL logic family as a single 151/251 data selector can be used as the core of each ALU. Before I start the process of designing modular 2-8 chip boards for a near production prototype - my workspace does not fit more than 40 breadboards on a what - a whiteboard.
We will be encountering issues like power/voltage loading, parasitic capacitance, TTL-HSCMOS fanout and placing at least 4000 wires. Not to mention the hardest part of the process - the software. Here is part of our 80 propeller 640 core propeller multiprocessor prototype in progress - see you in a couple months. You can follow progress of the kilocore prototype on the kilocore.blogspot.com blog."
Laser-Vector 2-props, establish wireless data link over long distance
Bigfoot computer designed physical cube of 6 SMT props - not built
Duane Degn Multi Prop Lab, 6 props (4 wired + 2 wireless), design only http://forums.parallax.com/forums/?f...474065#m474065
Mctrivia CAD Designed a breakaway board for 8 SMT props http://forums.parallax.com/forums/de...?f=25&m=429487
Obrien The photo at kilokore web site shows partial assembly of 68 props being wired on breadboards. We await more information and details. According to Obrien, he is using the techniques developed by Clock Loop. http://www.kilocore.com/ http://www.objectivej.com/hardware/p...etion_640h.jpg
Mctrivia propComputer, idea for 7 props on one board http://forums.parallax.com/showthrea...ers-on-1-board.
Cluso99 - pcb, 10 x TriBlades count as 30 but never actually built. The TriBlade pcb was built as 2x5 panels of TriBlades and are broken apart later. http://www.cluso.bluemagic.bizwww.cluso.bluemagic.biz
Cluso99 - pcb, 10 x RamBlades count as 10 but never actually operated. The RamBlade pcb was built as 2x5 panels of RamBlades and are broken apart after assembly. http://www.cluso.bluemagic.bizwww.cluso.bluemagic.biz)
Jazzed - multiprop pcb. IIRC, 30 prop pcbs on a panel
Clockloop Huge Propeller Grid - target goal 504 props / 4032 cores
http://forums.parallax.com/showthread.php/127983-55-Parallax-Propeller-s-Parallells-Processing-of-Permanent-Perturbations./page2
And now I reveal the point of designing this huge propeller grid.
A.C.S.E.R. Structure complete, wiring/soldering/programming up next. Dec 21st 2012, target completion date, confirmed. Initiate phase 2: soldering minimal antenna and firmware design for hydrogen resonance test. This initial design will require a minimum of 42 propeller chips, with a desired target of 84 chips. After tests with 84 chips, the next step up is to install and wire the maximum # of 504 prop chips. Yes, the final design will require 504 propeller chips. = $4,000.
Once the inital 42 chips are soldered and the system is working, and I have a running program, I will start a new thread in projects outlining the details of this device, its capabilities, tests, methods, schematics, pcb design files, spin programs, and more detailed video and images. The most important part of documentation will be the success or failure of this device to actually do what I intend it to do. It’s (very likely) possible that other uses will be found as I start to test with it.
Humanoido The Blitz Krieg. The most massive and ultimately powerful multifunctional Propeller machine ever designed at the Humanoido Labs Universe. Over 100,000 processors. Designed as a new generation Propeller-chip-based thinking machine that exceeds previous ratings. BK has greater design, creativity, speed, function, size, app capability, and number of processors. Allows exploration into the farthest frontiers of machine intelligence. Designed with previous processor enhancements and the inclusion of recent technology from HLU.
Contributors
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Bigfoot
Bill Henning
Brian Riley
BTX
Christian
Clock Loop
Cluso99
DaveJenson
Destructinator
Dr_Acula
Drohne235
Duane Degn
Electricsmith
Harley
Heater
Humanoido
Humanoido Labs
Jazzed
Kbash
Kuroneko
Laser-Vector
Loopy Byteloose
Mctrivia
Mikediv
Michael O'Brien
Mindrobots
Missouri Automaton
Nglordi (nickL)
Yoichi Nagashima
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